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Micy Liu is the founder and managing partner at Life Mission Capital, a commercial real estate firm that focuses on multifamily investing. She is a GP of 348 units, a fund manager of 929 units, and an LP of 187 units. She also works a full-time W-2 job in the data analytics space, which helped her cultivate the skill set necessary to excel in due diligence and data analysis in the commercial real estate world.

In this episode, Micy shares how she uses her data analysis background to her advantage during the business plan execution process, the importance of prioritizing the collection of data, and how she is adapting her business models in response to the economic volatility investors are facing right now. 

 

Micy Liu | Real Estate Background

  • Founder and managing partner at Life Mission Capital, a commercial real estate firm that focuses on multifamily investing.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 348 units
    • Fund manager of 929 units
    • LP of 187 units
  • Based in: Fayetteville, AR
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  • Best Ever Book: DotCom Secrets by Russell Brunson
  • Greatest lesson: Confusion causes indecision.

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Andrew Rosenberg is a passive investor who works full-time for his family business, Ralph Rosenberg Court Reporters. He first became "hooked" on investments after buying his first stock at age 13. Years later, Andrew and his father decided to begin investing their extra money in real estate. They started out with single-family homes but made the switch to syndications in order to scale more quickly. 

Today, Andrew is an LP of 3,400 units, along with small investments in office, farmland, and ATM syndications. In this episode, he discusses what he looks for when evaluating syndications, the one thing he considers to be a deal breaker, and why there’s no such thing as a truly passive investment.

 

Andrew Rosenberg | Real Estate Background

  • Passive investor who works full-time at Ralph Rosenberg Court Reporters.
  • Portfolio:
    • LP of 3,400 units, along with small investments in office, farmland, and ATM syndications
  • Based in: Honolulu, HI
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  • Greatest lesson: Much like with most everything in life, you have to work and earn results; there is no silver bullet.

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In this episode, Slocomb shares his secrets about how to find and keep great contractors. He breaks down the three aspects of a good contractor — speed, affordability, and quality — and how to decide which of these aspects is most important to you. He also shares what to do once you have found a good contractor in order to foster a relationship and build loyalty.

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Bobby Larsen has spent virtually his entire career in real estate. He earned his broker’s license while studying as an undergraduate, working in the sales part of the residential industry through his graduation. He then moved on to the investment world, working for a large asset manager based out of Newport Beach. 12 years, later, he launched Vanamour Investments, which strategically invests in multifamily communities throughout the United States through syndications and joint ventures with high-net-worth, family office, and institutional investors. 

Today, Bobby is the founder and principal of Vanamor Investments. He is a GP of 400 units across seven properties totaling $115M in AUM, as well as an LP of 10,000 units across 34 properties. In this episode, Bobby tells us how he qualifies operators as an LP and how he establishes trust with LPs from a GP perspective, plus his thoughts on why investors lose money in multifamily and why he believes now is a better time to invest than it was six months ago. 

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In this episode, Ash takes on the topic of partnerships, covering partners in business, deals, and joint ventures. He also shares the six most important lessons he’s learned from mistakes he has made over the years.

 

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Michael Gilman started his career as an attorney in investment banks. This gave him a chance to explore asset classes and business lines, which influenced him to leave the volatility of the stock market for real estate. He began investing his own capital, creating cash flow to replace his salary so he could eventually begin a full-time career in real estate.

Today, Michael is the founder of Cross Mountain Capital, a vertically integrated sponsor focused on value-add and opportunistic real estate in New England and the Mountain West. In this episode, Michael shares how his first deal became the best-performing property in his portfolio, how his Wall Street and law background help him with the due diligence process, and his secrets to successfully scaling. 

 

Michael Gilman | Real Estate Background

  • Founder of Cross Mountain Capital, a vertically integrated sponsor focused on value-add and opportunistic real estate in New England and the Mountain West.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 600+ units
  • Based in: New York, NY
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  • Greatest lesson: The importance of finding the right partner to scale.

 

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Hemal Badiani spent two decades traveling between three continents as he provided management consulting services to several fortune 100 companies. Several years ago, he decided to hang up his traveling boots and join the financial world, which led him to real estate. 

Today, Hemal is the CEO and founder of Exponential Equity, which builds and buys large commercial assets in the Carolinas. He is a GP of 744 units and $60M of ongoing construction projects that include self-storage and build-to-rent communities. In this episode, Hemal discusses the strategies that helped him rapidly scale his business over the last 16 months since leaving his W-2 job. 

1. Be clear about what you do well — and what you don’t.

When Hemal was new to the business and looking to educate himself, he insisted on being authentic about what he did and didn’t know. His specialty is in helping others improve their businesses, backed by two decades of corporate experience. However, he makes it clear that construction isn’t his forte. “People are attracted to that authenticity and the competency that I bring to the table,” he says.

2. Focus on what works in your market.

One of the reasons Hemal says he has been able to scale successfully so quickly is that he stays disciplined when it comes to what works in his chosen market. He avoids attaching numbers to his goals — whether he does $100M or $10M, he is happy if he, his partners, and his employees can make a good living. 

“We just continue the momentum and expansion of business, and the way we’re building each project is more important to us than having a fancy target,” he says. “That philosophy has allowed us for the most part … to stay in a very disciplined lane in terms of what we’re trying to do.”

3. Manage your emotions.

Last year, Hemal and his team walked away from a $45M deal and lost $385K in due diligence money. The sellers said they did due diligence, and because Hemal trusted them, his team didn’t follow their typical process. They later found out that there was a misleading set of financial information once they got into the contract and the deposit had already been made. “The biggest lesson was … if you let your excitement let you diverge from that process, you can get knocked down pretty quickly,” he says. 

4. Hire people who genuinely subscribe to your vision.

A major fundamental that has helped Hemal to scale is finding the right people who have the right values, integrity, hunger, and drive that he carries. He determines who these people are through a genuine conversation about how they view success and what they truly want out of their careers. 

“Once I find the right person, I trust them so much they get uncomfortable sleeping at night,” he says. “I look at them and I’m like, ‘I know you got this.’ And they just do magic and they go above and beyond.”

5. Stay nimble. 

Because the market has been so dynamic over the last two years, Hemal and his team assess and alter their strategies each quarter. By refusing to stay married to any one idea for a long period of time, they are able to adapt to market changes as they continue to build out their business both horizontally and vertically. 

6. Ask the experts. 

When Hemal was just starting out, the most valuable education he received came from established operators. “We asked these owner-operators to basically open up the books on how they manage properties, how they do reporting, and how they do communication,” he says. After reviewing five other operators’ playbooks, he was able to distill down his own version and buy his first property in September 2020.

7. Take action. 

“When you’re trying to climb a mountain, if you’re thinking about what shoes you want to wear and what pack you want to bring and what kind of filtered water you want to bring, I’m telling you — folks like myself are going to go barefoot and be halfway there before you decide to take action,” Hemal says. Even if you make mistakes, he believes those experiences only help to build credibility and good judgment.

Hemal Badiani | Real Estate Background

  • CEO and founder of Exponential Equity, which builds and buys large commercial assets (mainly multifamily) in the Carolinas.
  • Previous episode: JF2418: Using Diverse Background and Personal Superpowers in Real Estate
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of:
      • 744 units
      • $60M of ongoing construction projects that include self-storage and build-to-rent communities
    • LP of:
      • 2,000 units
  • Based in: Charlotte, NC
  • Say hi to him at:
  • Greatest lesson: Do your best every day, but remember that your best is different on different days.

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Each week for the Best Ever Round Table, the three Best Ever Show hosts — Ash Patel, Slocomb Reed, and Travis Watts — come together for a deep dive into a commercial real estate investing topic.

Have you recently dipped your toe into commercial real estate? Maybe you’ve done a deal or two, or maybe you’re considering putting some more CRE in your portfolio. If you’re just getting started, this episode is for you. Ash, Slocomb, and Travis discuss what originally attracted them to commercial real estate and how you can decide if it’s the right path for you.

 

1. Why Commercial Real Estate?

Ash, Slocomb, and Travis each had different circumstances that led them to consider investing in real estate. 

  • Ash was seeking a way to offset taxes.

    “I found real estate by accident,” he says. Every year, he would ask his CPA how to offset his taxes as a W-2 earner, but never received a useful answer. “I always heard that real estate was a great way to offset taxes,” he continues. “I didn’t understand what that meant, but I thought I should buy some real estate.”
  • Slocomb was looking for a side hustle.

    Before becoming an apartment owner/operator, he worked as a youth minister. “I was just looking to bridge the gap with a part-time job, be contributing equally to our family as my wife was, and I finally picked up Rich Dad Poor Dad,” he says. Soon after, he embarked on his first house hack and fell in love with real estate.

  • Travis was following his dream of entrepreneurship.

    “I just didn’t know exactly what I wanted to do for a business,” he says. “So it took many years to go full-time with real estate, and that was about a seven-year journey.”

2. Top Lessons Learned in Their CRE Careers

  • If you want to go far, go together.

    “If you’re full-time in real estate and your goal is to scale, you have to start looking at partners, joint ventures, and other people to work with,” Ash says. He also advises carefully selecting your partners and clearly communicating your expectations beforehand.


  • You always have the ability to adapt.

    When Slocomb realized he was pulling most of the weight in a partnership, he decided to do something about it. “I formed a property management company through that experience so that my partnership could pay me management fees for doing all of the work,” he explains. That management company has allowed him to take down additional deals, scale through hiring, and scale through new partnerships. “It was my ability to adapt to changing circumstances that those things happened.”
  • You don’t have to start small.

    “I would say to anybody listening, whether you are or want to be a GP, an LP, do a JV, individual purchasing — you really can start with multifamily or commercial, or something above that,” Travis says. He didn’t realize this for a long time, and like many CRE investors, now believes he could have gone bigger faster when he started out.

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Marshall Sykes served in the U.S. Navy as a Civil Engineer Corps officer, where he built and maintained military bases. He retired after 25 years as a captain, moving on to a career in the oil and gas business with ExxonMobil. In 2021, after eight years in that role, he decided to launch a full-time career in multifamily real estate. 

Today, Marshall is the president and owner of Capitano Investing Group, which focuses on multifamily real estate syndications with 100 or more units. He is a GP of over 2,600 units across 13 properties. In this episode, he shares how he acquired so many units in his first 14 months as a syndicator, why he feels that rising interest rates can be used to his advantage, and his projections for how increasing expenses will impact the multifamily space. 

 

Marshall Sykes | Real Estate Background

  • President and owner of Capitano Investing Group, which focuses on multifamily real estate syndications with 100+ units.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 2,600+ units across 13 properties valued at $330M
    • LP in nearly every property that he has raised on
  • Based in: Houston, TX
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  • Best Ever Book: Halftime by Bob Buford
  • Greatest lesson: Develop your strategy before you start implementing it.

 

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Ben Kogut got his start in the commercial real estate space as a broker in 2004. He pivoted to syndications in 2017, joining HJH Investments. Today, Ben is a partner and the Director of Investor Relations at HJH, which specializes in triple-net, cash-flowing investment properties including shopping centers, office buildings, industrial, medical, and QSR.

In this episode, Ben compares and contrasts triple-net commercial real estate syndications with multifamily syndications. He also discusses the two major components of management and the strategy he and his team use to take down one deal every month.

Ben Kogut | Real Estate Background

  • Partner and director of investor relations at HJH Investments, which specializes in NNN cash-flowing investment properties like shopping centers, office buildings, industrial, medical, and QSR.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 80 acquisitions, totaling $500M in AUM
    • LP of 10 deals
  • Based in: Austin, TX
  • Say hi to him at:
  • Best Ever Book:  Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl
  • Greatest Lesson: Relationships are the most important part of business! Relationships with our investors, lenders, brokers, vendors, etc.

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Lisa Landry started her interior design firm specializing in residential and commercial properties more than 20 years ago. Today, she is the CEO of Above & Beyond Multifamily and Landry Designs. She is a multifamily syndicator and asset manager as well as an interior designer specializing in adding value to multifamily properties across the country, particularly in class B and C assets. 

When it comes to syndications, Lisa stresses that design is incredibly important. “Our job as designers for multifamily is to do whatever we can to boost the NOI,” she says. “It’s just amazing how quickly the value of the property can increase.” In this episode, Lisa shares her top interior design tips property owners can use to increase their NOI. 

Lisa Landry | Real Estate Background

  • CEO of Above & Beyond Multifamily and Landry Designs. She is a multifamily syndicator and asset manager, as well as an interior designer specializing in adding value to multifamily properties across the country, particularly class B and C assets.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 108 units
    • Recently had an LP property go full cycle
  • She has won 35 International Design Awards, been published nationally 18 times, and is a 10-time winner of Living Magazine's Best Interior Designer award.
  • Based in: Ft. Worth, TX
  • Say hi to her at:
  • Best Ever Book: Best Ever Apartment Syndication Book by Joe Fairless & Theo Hicks
  • Greatest lesson:
    • Real Estate: I have learned how rewarding it is to transform B & C properties into safe, beautiful places to live and work. Also, to provide multifamily investment opportunities to regular, everyday people who weren't aware of the multifamily space prior to introducing it to them.
    • Interior Design: I have learned that people's moods, happiness, and productivity can be extremely affected by their surroundings and that people like to live in unique spaces. That's what Landry Designs is known for.

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In this episode, Travis explores a hypothetical situation many investors have thought about: What if you lost everything and had to start over again? This is a typical, fear-based thought many investors experience in the early stages. Travis shares why he knows he’ll be okay regardless of what the future holds for him, how avoiding the “success cycle” is crucial, and the two things you should always keep in mind as a passive investor.

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John McGeown is a self-described old soul in real estate. He grew up in Chicago and joined the U.S. Navy after graduation, where he served from 1999 to 2003. At age 24, he decided to enter the world of real estate. 

Today, John is the president of High Fidelity Property Management, a third-party property management company that has 1,000 apartment units under management throughout Chicago’s North Side neighborhoods. In this episode, he shares his top five Best Ever tips for property managers, as well as his experience as a GP in the Chicago MSA.

1. Don’t Underestimate the Time It Will Take

John says that many people who self-manage underestimate the time it takes to properly manage a building, which is why they often come to him for help. “I think the mistake is people try to do too much too fast too soon,” he says. 

2. Make Sure You Have the Right Resources

Others who self-manage their properties tend to struggle because they haven’t yet established reliable connections. “Having a good cast of vendors is one of the hardest things for property owners who are managing themselves,” John says. 

3. Your Existing Portfolio Is the Gold

John admits that he is often in “go” mode and forgets this one thing: “Your existing portfolio is the gold, and new people are silver,” he says. He sees many third-party property managers flip those priorities around, making the mistake of devaluing their existing client base and overvaluing new business. 

4. Know What You Know — And What You Don’t

When asked why he hasn’t ventured into short-term rentals, John answers candidly: “I’m a Navy guy, and I’m very cautious,” he says. “I know what I know, and I know what I don’t know.” It took him a considerable amount of time to discover who he is, what he wants to offer, why he is different, and why people should work with him. Now that he has that figured out, he prefers not to deviate from his plan. 

“There’s always going to be a shiny object that somebody is shaking in front of you,” he says. “For me, it never really felt like something that I wanted to do. So I didn’t do it.” 

5. Three Things to Look for When Evaluating Vendors

“Communication, trust, and competency are the things that we look for when we’re evaluating new vendors,” John says. Additionally, he prioritizes getting the best possible price for the best service he can. 

John McGeown | Real Estate Background

  • President of High Fidelity Property Management, a third-party property management company that has 1,000 apartment units under management throughout Chicago's North Side neighborhoods.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 100 units
    • LP of 36 units
  • Based in: Chicago, IL
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  • Greatest lesson: Never give up! This business doesn't slow down for me, so I have to work hard to keep up. Sometimes tomorrow is about learning from yesterday.

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Brenda Mas got her start in multifamily in 2002 working in asset management for a developer/operator/builder. After transitioning to the development side of the business, she oversaw acquisitions, entitlements, subdivision, stabilization, and financing for properties in the LA market. She left the company in 2019 to work independently, venturing into syndications with her husband, a construction expert. 

Today, Brenda is the founding and managing partner of VestWell Ventures, a group of multifamily operators and developers focused on value-add strategy. In this episode, she shares why she and her husband are shifting their focus back to development, their strategy for selecting land deals, and the biggest lesson she learned during the market collapse in 2008.

1. Focusing on Development

When it comes to development, Brenda and her husband have a competitive edge. They have access to consultants, structural engineers, and architects, and they know construction inside and out. Plus, the high demand for housing right now combined with current economic uncertainty made the decision to go back to development a no-brainer. 

“Demand is there, and we have the know-how,” Brenda says. “Why not bring that to our investors and allow them to make money alongside us?”

2. Strategy for Selecting Land Deals

Brenda and her husband have partnered with an architecture firm to help them determine which deals will work best for them. The size of the land isn’t as important to Brenda as how developers are treated in the town and what regulations are in place. 

“Those are things that we really take into consideration,” she says. “Right now our focus is on the Houston market because they have fewer zoning restrictions there, and that expedites our development timeline.”

3. Learning from the 2008 Market Collapse

During the collapse, Brenda and her team had property in downtown Los Angeles under construction. Their construction lender folded, and they were on the brink of losing the buildings. Many developers handed over their keys, but she refused. This led to litigation and a settlement. While they didn’t lose any money in the process, they lost valuable time. 

“There are times that you have to walk away,” Brenda says, “and understand what’s going on in the economy. The indicators were there that this was going to happen with the construction lender, and we should have paid attention a little sooner.”

Brenda Mas | Real Estate Background

  • Founding and managing partner of VestWell Ventures, multifamily operators and developers focused on a value-add strategy.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 167 units
    • LP of 1,070 units
  • Based in: Los Angeles, CA
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  • Best Ever Book: Measure What Matters by John Doerr
  • Greatest lesson: You have to be engaged in your business, take a proactive approach, and exhibit a great amount of grit, especially when faced with economic uncertainty. I don’t look at multifamily investing as a pastime; it’s my business and I expect to see it succeed.

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Jennings Smith and his cousin Yeadon Smith are business partners who collectively own approximately 48% of their portfolio, which they were able to achieve through BRRRR-style apartment buying. Jennings got his start as a contractor after earning his builder’s license at 19 and began slowly building wealth through real estate. He took Michael Blank’s Ultimate Apartment Buyer Guide online course, which helped him syndicate his first 12-unit deal in 2019. 

Today, Jennings is the co-founder of Live Oak Capital and My First Million in Multifamily. Live Oak Capital is an investment firm focused on multifamily, and MFMIM aims to build networks and communication that help people close multifamily deals. In this episode, Jennings explains why he prefers syndications to JV deals, why he chooses to structure his deals with a 70/30 split with 70% going to the GP, and how identifying his strengths and weaknesses helped him to scale. 

 

Jennings Smith | Real Estate Background

  • Co-founder of Live Oak Capital and My First Million in Multifamily (MFMIM). Live Oak Capital is an investment firm focused on multifamily. MFMIM aims to build networks and communication that help people close multifamily deals.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of:
      • 1,000 units
      • 500 self-storage units
  • Based in: Summerville, SC
  • Say hi to him at:
  • Best Ever Book: Flip the Script by Oren Klaff
  • Greatest lesson: Borrowed belief. Understand that achieving goals is not difficult, it can just be different than what you initially thought. Surround yourself with people that inspire that same belief and are able to unlock your potential.

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Danté Belmonte is a 24-year-old real estate broker based in Syracuse, New York. Four years into his career, Danté decided to venture into multifamily syndications in the Charlotte, North Carolina MSA. 

Today, Danté is the managing partner at Victory Capital Group, which acquires and operates multifamily properties. He is a GP of three syndications totaling 100 units and an LP of approximately 1,200 units. In this episode, Danté shares how he and his business partner find deals in the competitive Charlotte MSA, how they pulled off a 30-day close, how he approaches broker relationships as a broker himself, and the importance of professional property management. 

Danté Belmonte | Real Estate Background

  • Managing partner at Victory Capital Group, which acquires and operates multifamily properties in North Carolina.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of three syndications totaling 100 units
    • LP of about 1,200 units
  • Based in: Syracuse, NY
  • Say hi to him at:
  • Greatest lesson: It’s incredibly important to have a partner that fills your voids and that you can trust.

 

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Badri Malynur has invested in various startups and across asset classes, including auctions, stock, commodities, and bonds. After entering semi-retirement, a friend asked him to help co-found Avestor Inc., a technology platform focused on an end-to-end solution for sponsors to build customizable private funds. 

Today, Badri serves as VP at Avestor in addition to his role as co-founder. In this episode, he shares why he and his friends decided to create Avestor, why both the syndication and fund industries are ripe for disruption, and how customizable private funds are changing investing as we know it.

 

Badri Malynur | Real Estate Background

  • Co-founder and VP at Avestor Inc., a technology platform focused on an end-to-end solution for sponsors to build customizable private funds.
  • Portfolio:
    • LP of over 50 deals across multiple asset classes including multifamily, self-storage, industrial, mobile home parks, and student housing
  • Based in: Beaverton, OR
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  • Greatest lesson: Build a diversified portfolio that spans multiple asset classes using a dumbbell approach for managing risk.

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Passive Investor Tips is a weekly series hosted by full-time passive investor and Best Ever Show host, Travis Watts. In each bite-sized episode, Travis breaks down passive investor topics, simplifying the philosophy and mindset while providing tactical, valuable information on how to be a passive investor.

In this episode, Travis expands on his famous saying: “It’s simple, but it’s not easy.” He explains how most passive investors begin their journey with a modest investment that might not seem impressive at first, but it’s important to keep in mind that it’s only the beginning. The journey takes time, patience, and self-discipline. 

While it is simple to invest, Travis stresses that real estate, in most cases, is not a way to get rich quickly. It’s a wealth-building strategy. However, once you study the fundamentals, get the right education, and lay out your roadmap, it will simply be a matter of time before you reach your financial goals.

 

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Leslie Awasom is a nurse anesthetist who co-founded XSITE Capital Investment with his partners, Julius Oni and Tenny Tolofari. When he came across the multifamily asset class, Leslie realized many of his colleagues in the healthcare industry and members of his community were unaware that this type of investment opportunity existed. He and his partners were inspired to create XSITE in 2019 to educate more people about multifamily investing. 

Today, XSITE has $125M in assets under management with a growing community of investors. In this episode, Leslie discusses his role as director of operations, his love for analyzing data, and the correlations he’s seen between his career in anesthesiology and business operations for XSITE. 

  • Co-founder and Director of Operations of XSITE Capital Investment LLC, which focuses on multifamily syndications.
  • Previous Best Ever Episode: JF2163: Anesthesiologist to Real Estate with Leslie Awasom
  • Currently works as a nurse anesthetist transitioning to real estate full-time.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 694 units, totaling $125M in AUM
    • LP of $53M across two deals
  • Based in: Hanover, MD
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  • Greatest lesson: Have great partners and significantly accelerate your growth.

 

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Michael Episcope worked as a commodities trader for 15 years while investing passively before deciding to take things a step further and earn a master’s degree in real estate. Looking back on previous passive investing experiences, Michael and his business partner came together with a simple idea: “We can do this better.”

Today Michael is co-CEO of Origin Investments, a private equity real estate firm serving nearly 3,000 high-net-worth individuals. Origin builds, buys, and lends to class A multifamily real estate in tax and climate-friendly states. 

In this episode, Michael shares how he found his business partner, his strategy for finding developers and managing them remotely, how the JOBS act catalyzed Origin’s growth, and why saying no is the most important lesson he’s learned thus far. 

 

Michael Episcope | Real Estate Background

  • Co-CEO of Origin Investments, a private equity real estate firm serving nearly 3,000 high-net-worth individuals. Origin builds, buys, and lends to class A multifamily real estate in tax and climate-friendly states.
  • Portfolio: $2B in AUM
  • Based in: Chicago, IL
  • Say hi to him at:
  • Greatest lesson: Don’t engage in businesses that create a conflict of interest between you and your investors.

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Each week for the Best Ever Round Table, the three Best Ever Show hosts — Ash Patel, Slocomb Reed, and Travis Watts — come together for a deep dive into a commercial real estate investing topic.

Is now a good time to get into real estate? In response to listeners that have been requesting to hear more about current events, Ash and Travis give a detailed update on what’s happening in the real estate market right now. 

They share their predictions, thoughts, and opinions on the state of inflation and interest rates, as well as their reactions to fear-inducing headlines. They also discuss their thoughts on the single-family market, how both multifamily and non-residential commercial real estate are performing, and whether now is an ideal time to get into real estate. 

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Danny Newberry has been busy since his last appearance on the Best Ever Show. The CEO of Vail Commercial Group, a privately held boutique commercial real estate group, has been focusing on value-add shopping centers and small bay industrial facilities around the country. With close to $100M in assets under management, the group is also focusing on single-tenant, ground-up construction deals. 

In this episode, Danny shares what the heavy value-add repositioning process looks like for shopping centers and small bay industrial facilities, plus his unique, win-win approach to tenant relationships. 

Danny Newberry | Real Estate Background

  • CEO of Vail Commercial Group, a privately held boutique commercial real estate group that specializes in the acquisition, improvement, repositioning, and management of acquired commercial investment properties.
  • Previous episode: JF1005: Why He Prefers to Buy Shopping Centers Now with Danny Newberry
  • GP of $80M in AUM
  • Based in: Vail, CO
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  • Greatest lesson: Have fun and enjoy the process. Build a great team. Stay focused on your innate abilities.
  • Best Ever Book: Who Not How by Dan Sullivan

 

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Richard Simtob has been an entrepreneur since he was young, getting involved with his first franchise during college. Throughout his career, he has scaled franchises for chains like Wireless Toyz, Zoup! Eatery, Goldfish Swim School, Creative World School, and Official Driving School. It wasn’t until recently that Richard got into real estate, and it was all thanks to his now 21-year-old son, Brad. 

Today, Richard is a syndicator and investor, serving as a GP of 401 units and an LP of 12 multifamily investments. In this episode, Richard tells us about the dynamic he and his son have established as co-GPs, how he’s been able to transfer his knowledge of scaling businesses from franchising to real estate, and his advice to young people on how to structure a company partnership.

 

Richard Simtob | Real Estate Background

  • Syndicator and investor. Business owner of eight Goldfish Swim Schools, Statewide Driving Education, three early childhood education schools, and Simtob Management Investment.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 401 units
    • LP of 12 multifamily investments
  • Based in: West Bloomfield, MI (summer), Aventura, FL (winter)
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  • Greatest lesson: You don't get what you wish for, you get what you work for.

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Harry Nima Zegarra, MD, and his wife are physicians from Peru. They met in medical school and then moved to the U.S. to continue their education and training. After settling in Dallas, they decided to get involved in real estate five years ago. They first employed the buy-and-hold strategy with residential properties but discovered commercial real estate syndications and decided to switch gears. 

Today, Harry is the managing partner at Nima Equity, which raises capital for commercial multifamily investments. In this episode, he shares his top methods for networking and connecting with others interested in CRE, the skills he’s developed as a physician that has translated well into apartment syndication, and how he makes time for real estate while working full-time as a physician. 

Harry Nima Zegarra, MD | Real Estate Background

  • Managing partner at Nima Equity, which raises capital for commercial multifamily investments.
  • Portfolio: GP of 784 units across four states
  • Works full-time as a pulmonary and critical care medicine physician.
  • Based in: Plano, TX
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  • Best Ever Book: The Gap & The Gain by Dan Sullivan & Benjamin Hardy
  • Greatest lesson: The value of networking and leveraging money and other people's time and expertise.

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Passive Investor Tips is a weekly series hosted by full-time passive investor and Best Ever Show host, Travis Watts. In each bite-sized episode, Travis breaks down passive investor topics, simplifying the philosophy and mindset while providing tactical, valuable information on how to be a passive investor.

In this episode, Travis explains why it is so difficult for new commercial real estate investors to make their first million dollars. He identifies four obstacles that hinder the process and what you can do to overcome them. 

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Direct download: JF_2914_Passive_Investor_Tips_7.mp3
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Bikran Sandhu is a CPA who began his career as an auditor for PricewaterhouseCoopers. He caught the real estate bug in 2018; by April 2021, it became his full-time career. 

Today, Bikran is CFO, COO, and co-founder of Rise48 Equity, a real estate investment services firm that focuses on multifamily syndication. In this episode, he discusses how he and his partners began working together, the growing pains they faced early on, why they choose to invest in the Phoenix MSA despite the competition, and how they establish an edge against big institutions when competing for properties. 

Bikran Sandhu | Real Estate Background

  • CFO, COO, and co-founder of Rise48 Equity, a real estate investment services firm that focuses on multifamily syndication.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP and LP of 4,826 units across 26 properties
  • Based in: Scottsdale, AZ
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  • Greatest lesson: Perseverance is key. Buying large multifamily apartments, raising capital, and building a company is a very complex and challenging career. It's not for the faint of heart. But with the right partners, a positive attitude, and a persevering mentality, you can learn from the best and apply the skillsets to your own success.

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When Sujata Shyam was asked to transfer across the country for her corporate career, she decided to take 100 days off to consider her next move. 100 days turned into 18 months of traveling and experiencing the world, and Sujata soon realized she wanted a career that would help her maintain this new sense of freedom. She discovered that running her own Airbnb business could provide her with the passive income she needed, and before she knew it, she’d launched a full-fledged real estate career. 

Today, Sujata is the managing principal at Luxe Capital Investment Group, Ltd., an education-based investment firm focusing on multifamily, ATMs, and self-storage. In this episode, Sujata shares why she feels she isn’t well-suited for the corporate world, how she started her Airbnb business, how she qualifies investments for her investors today, and why she believes that investing in real estate should be boring. 

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In this episode, Ash, Slocomb, and Travis share advice for scaling your commercial real estate business, as well as the lessons they’ve learned from their own experiences. They discuss the pivotal moment when they each realized it was time to expand and what they’ve each personally done to scale, plus the bottlenecks they’re facing in their businesses today and the key ways others have helped them along the way.

Each week for the Best Ever Round Table, the three Best Ever Show hosts — Ash Patel, Slocomb Reed, and Travis Watts — come together for a deep dive into a commercial real estate investing topic.

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Justin Liggitt entered the investment industry more than 20 years ago as a financial advisor. In 2011, he took on a major project that ended up steering his career toward a more creative role, which allowed him to focus on marketing and investor relations and how the two can work together.

Today, he is the Director of Investor Relations for DJE Texas Management Group, a vertically integrated multifamily investment firm that focuses on large value-add syndication strategies. In this episode, Justin tells us about the target investor for DJE’s syndications, branching out into Texas ranch land, and why he values stillness when it comes to his investor relations role.

Justin Liggitt | Real Estate Background

  • Director of Investor Relations of DJE Texas Management Group, a vertically integrated multifamily investment firm based in San Antonio, TX.
  • Portfolio: GP of 2,000+ units
  • Based in: San Antonio, TX
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  • Best Ever Book: How to Write One Song by Jeff Tweedy
  • Greatest lesson: Be patient with yourself.

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In this episode, Ash gives his Best Ever advice on how to fill vacancies in commercial real estate. He provides knowledge to help investors make educated decisions on what to buy, what to do if you have a vacancy, and how to fill it.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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Patrick Reven is an active-duty Air Force Pilot currently stationed at the Shaw Air Force Base in Sumter, SC. He met his business partner, Ricardo Torres, in pilot training, and together they purchased their first multifamily deal in Tucson, AZ, only a couple of years ago.

Today, Patrick is the co-founder and COO of Vectored Equity, which primarily focuses on syndications and funds. In this episode, he shares how his career as an Air Force Pilot prepared him to excel at asset management, how he manages his time between his military career and GP responsibilities, and why he’s choosing to focus on properties with 50 units or less.

Patrick Reven | Real Estate Background

  • Co-founder and COO of Vectored Equity, which primarily focuses on syndications and funds.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 163 units totaling $28M in AUM
  • Works full-time as an F16 Pilot for the Air Force.
  • Based in: Sumter, SC
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  • Best Ever Book: Single Seat Wisdom by Dominic Teich
  • Greatest lesson: Take action. Listening, learning, etc., is extremely important, but it doesn't matter how much you know if you never take action.

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In this episode, Travis explains the rule of 72, which helps investors to predict approximately how long it will take them to double their money in an investment. He provides the formula and shares why the rule of 72 is important for both active and passive investors, providing examples to illustrate how it’s used. He also invites listeners to reach out to him on social media for access to his free financial independence calculator.

Passive Investor Tips is a weekly series hosted by full-time passive investor and Best Ever Show host, Travis Watts. In each bite-sized episode, Travis breaks down passive investor topics, simplifying the philosophy and mindset while providing tactical, valuable information on how to be a passive investor.

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Vessi Kapoulian grew up in Bulgaria behind the Iron Curtain, where the only concept of investing she knew involved hard assets like silver and gold. When she arrived in the U.S., she earned her graduate degree and began her corporate career. Then in 2017, she stumbled upon a real estate seminar that changed everything.

Today, Vessi is the founder of DBA Capital Group, LLC, which focuses on operating multifamily investments under both a JV and syndication model. In this episode, she discusses what motivated her to get involved in syndication, her underwriting strategy, and the lessons she learned about persistence, strength, and sticking to her core investment criteria.

Vessi Kapoulian | Real Estate Background

  • Founder of DBA Capital Group, LLC, which focuses on operating multifamily investments under both a JV and syndication model.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 161 units across seven properties, totaling $13M in AUM
    • A small portfolio of residential properties including a duplex and two short-term rentals
  • Based in: Los Angeles, CA
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  • Best Ever Book: The ONE Thing by Gary Keller
  • Greatest lesson: Loyalty does not always pay. Shop the deal with multiple lenders, especially in the current environment.

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Ryan McKenna grew up with an entrepreneurial mindset, but his dream wasn’t initially to get into real estate — it was to become a professional baseball player. He attended Arizona State University on a baseball scholarship but was forced to walk away from the sport after being diagnosed with ITP, a blood platelet disorder, during his sophomore year. After recovering with a clean bill of health, Ryan decided his next move would be syndication.

Today, Ryan is the CEO and founder of McKenna Capital, a real estate private equity firm that provides passive investment opportunities through real estate syndications including multifamily apartments, senior living, bitcoin mining, self-storage, express car washes, and other niche alternatives. In this episode, Ryan shares how he came to grips with such a major life change, what drove him to start his business, and how he was able to scale to 70 syndications and 15,000 multifamily units in only four years.

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The Best Ever Show hosts share the second episode in the mini-series, “Convince Me,” where they debate various aspects of commercial real estate strategy from different perspectives. In this episode, they discuss the advantages and disadvantages of choosing syndication as a partnership structure versus a joint venture with active partners.

Each week for the Best Ever Round Table, the three Best Ever Show hosts — Ash Patel, Slocomb Reed, and Travis Watts — come together for a deep dive into a commercial real estate investing topic.

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Christine Bellish is the co-founder of the Bellish Team, a real estate investment firm that focuses on large commercial and multifamily property acquisitions. Together, she and her husband Danny are currently GPs of 588 units and have been involved in 922 units as LPs.

In this episode, Christine discusses how she shifted from a career in advertising to becoming a GP, plus the importance of leading with value and partnering with experts in order to scale your business.

Christine Bellish | Real Estate Background

  • Co-founder of the Bellish Team, a real estate investment firm that focuses on large commercial and multifamily property acquisitions.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 588 units
    • LP of 922 units
  • Based in: Garwood, NJ
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  • Greatest lesson: Lead with value and partner with experts to scale. You don't have to learn everything the hard way.

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In this episode, Slocomb shares his top four tips for launching your value-add business plan.

Bonus Operations is a weekly series hosted by apartment owner/operator and Best Ever Show host, Slocomb Reed. In each five- to ten-minute episode, Slocomb provides his top takes for executing your business plan and maintaining cash flow.

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Adam Rosenkranz is the chief investment officer for Christina, a Malibu-based real estate developer, manager, and sponsor founded in 1977. He got his start managing real estate assets for high-net-worth individuals at Wells Fargo in San Francisco.

Today, Adam is responsible for Christina’s acquisition due diligence, financial management of their in-house property management team, and implementation of the business plan. In this episode, he discusses how his company’s 45-year track record influences their acquisitions, how they structure their deals, and his thoughts on short-term debt.

Adam Rosenkranz | Real Estate Background

  • Chief investment officer of Christina Development Corporation, a Malibu-based real estate developer, manager, and sponsor founded in 1977.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of approximately 20 properties that are a mix of retail, office, and multifamily
  • Based in: Malibu, CA
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  • Best Ever Book: Fear by Bob Woodward
  • Greatest lesson: Great real estate is meant to be held. Throughout the company’s 45-year history, there is not a single property we’ve sold in the Westside region of Los Angeles that we could purchase back today for the price we sold it for.

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In this episode, Travis explains how to compound your returns, drawing on his own personal experiences to illustrate this fundamental and impactful passive investing concept.

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Airline pilot Chad Freeman got his start in real estate by purchasing a “pilot crash pad” in New York in 2005. Although he describes it as a “terrible” property, it launched him into the real estate business. In 2015, he decided to take a boot camp course to help him break into the mobile home park industry.

Today, Chad is the founder of MHPinvestors, which purchases undervalued mobile home parks in the Midwest. He is a GP of 150 mobile home lots and 47 RV spaces. In this episode, Chad shares what attracted him to the mobile home parks space, what goes into completing a heavy turnaround for an 82-space park, and the toughest lesson he’s learned when it comes to adding new homes to his parks.

Chad Freeman | Real Estate Background

  • Founder of MHPinvestors, which purchases undervalued mobile home parks in the Midwest.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of:
      • 150 mobile home lots
      • 47 RV spaces
    • LP of his own syndication
  • Based in: Jacksonville, FL
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  • Best Ever Book: Am I Being Too Subtle? by Sam Zell
  • Greatest lesson: Other people always have good ideas you haven’t thought of. Teamwork and communication are very important and you can't do it alone.

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Ismael “Rey” Reyes began investing in single-family homes during his 28-year career in the U.S. Army. Just before retiring as a Lieutenant Colonel, he learned about syndications and how they could allow him to continue to scale his real estate business and build wealth despite his hectic schedule.

Today, Rey is president of MI Real Estate LLC, which primarily focuses on the acquisition and asset management of class B and C multifamily properties. In this episode, Rey discusses the system he uses to continuously improve, what to look for when it comes to the ideal contract timeline, and how he’s grown his team to compensate for his increasingly limited time.

Ismael “Rey” Reyes | Real Estate Background

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In this episode, the Best Ever Hosts share the first episode in the mini series Convince Me where they will debate various aspects of commercial real estate strategy from different perspectives. In this episode, they discuss the advantages and disadvantages of long-term investors creating an exit strategy. 

Each week for the Best Ever Round Table, the three Best Ever Show hosts — Ash Patel, Slocomb Reed, and Travis Watts — come together for a deep dive into a commercial real estate investing topic.

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Timothy Cague is the President of The Cyan Group LLC, which specializes in cyber execution protection and monitoring services for numerous Fortune 500 clients. In this episode, Timothy shares his advice for high-net-worth individuals on how they can protect themselves from cyber threats and keep their personal information safe.

Timothy Cague | Background

Timothy Cague, President of The Cyan Group LLC specializes in cyber executive protection. He has a Master’s in Business Administration from the University of Maryland University College and a Bachelor’s of Science in Computer Engineering from the Rochester Institute of Technology. After graduating from RIT Tim served as a Communications Officer in the U.S. Air Force and later as a government contractor. He then went on to found The Cyan Group where he and his team provide a wide range of Cyber Executive Protection and Monitoring services for numerous Fortune 500 clients.

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In this episode, Ash provides his top nine tips for networking and creating a thought leadership platform. He reflects back on the advice he received from Joe Fairless at a local meetup in 2015 that helped him to become the commercial real estate thought leader he is today.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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AJ Klenk entered real estate in the middle of the Great Recession in 2009 with a dream to eventually build schools internationally in developing countries. Today, he is the founder and owner of Capstone Companies, the country’s largest privately owned multifamily apartment brokerage. He is also a GP of more than 2,000 units, owns a multifamily development company along with multiple restaurants, and just returned from building a school in Nicaragua.

In this episode, AJ shares his tips for cultivating a winning team and discusses how his success is helping him achieve his ultimate dream of giving back.

AJ Klenk | Real Estate Background

  • Owner of Capstone Companies and Catalyst Capital Partners, a multifamily development company.
  • Portfolio: GP of 2,000+ units, and currently has 18 multifamily projects in motion at various stages. Also the owner of multiple restaurants in the Carolinas.
  • Based in: Charlotte, NC
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  • Greatest lesson: Grow your business where you feel real value can be created and where a positive impact can be had on others.

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In this episode, Travis explains that there are two sides to the coin when it comes to money: saving and investing. He illustrates the importance of both sides and the downside of focusing only on saving while neglecting to invest.

Passive Investor Tips is a weekly series hosted by full-time passive investor and Best Ever Show host, Travis Watts. In each bite-sized episode, Travis breaks down passive investor topics, simplifying the philosophy and mindset while providing tactical, valuable information on how to be a passive investor.

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Micah Mattox is the director of both commercial insurance and multifamily at RealProtect, a real estate brokerage operating nationwide. RealProtect helps real estate investors manage their risk and protect their assets using specialized programs designed to fit their needs.

In this episode, Micah shares the top three factors that are having the biggest impact on multifamily insurance rates right now and what investors can do to adapt.

Micah Mattox | Real Estate Background

  • Director of Commercial Insurance and Director of Multifamily at RealProtect. They help real estate investors and all those involved with the real estate industry manage their risk and protect their assets using specialized programs designed to fit their needs.
  • Based in: Atlanta, GA (operates nationwide)
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  • Greatest lesson: The importance of networking and community. The real estate industry is so tight-knit that if you are excellent at your job and treat people right, they will tell their friends. The opposite is also true, which is why I always go the extra mile to help wherever I can.

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Kevin Bupp began investing in real estate with the help of a mentor more than two decades ago at the age of 19. After saving up $7K to buy his first property, Kevin soon realized he needed to scale if he wanted to create significant cash flow. He acquired 150 single-family rental properties before venturing into commercial real estate. 

Today, Kevin is the owner and president of Sunrise Capital Investors, a boutique real estate private equity firm that specializes in acquiring and managing niche assets such as mobile home parks and parking lots. In this episode, Kevin discusses his experience as an investor during the economic downturn of 2008, how the experience changed his outlook on assets going forward, and how to avoid risky deals in today’s market.

Kevin Bupp | Real Estate Background

  • Owner/president of Sunrise Capital Investors, a boutique real estate private equity firm that specializes in acquiring and managing niche assets such as mobile home parks and parking lots.
  • Previous episode: JF 16: How to Amass a Large Portfolio, Lose Most of It, and Come Back Stronger
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of $100M+ in AUM with properties in 13 states
    • LP of:
      • 3,000+ multifamily units
      • 2 million sq. ft. of self-storage
      • 500,000 sq. ft. of medical offices
      • A dozen car washes
  • Based in: Clearwater, FL
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  • Greatest lesson: Passion is the key. Without it, ideas die before they have a chance to thrive, people don’t start their own businesses, and success remains a speck on the horizon.

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In this episode, Ash, Slocomb, and Travis share their insights when it comes to commercial real estate markets. They discuss which markets they invest in, their takes on local vs. out-of-state investing, the importance of selecting the right markets, metrics they use in their own market selection process, and the best-performing markets they’ve each invested in.

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Craig Berger is the founder and CEO of Avid Realty Partners, which buys, owns, renovates, and eventually sells multifamily apartments along with other commercial realty assets. He is a GP of 1,149 units and is based in Manhattan, NY. In this episode, Craig shares about the struggles and wins of investing in what he refers to as class D- properties, his criteria for what makes a great deal, and the importance of diversifying your portfolio across asset classes and markets.

Craig Berger | Real Estate Background

  • Founder and CEO of Avid Realty Partners, which buys, owns, renovates, and eventually sells multifamily apartments along with other commercial realty assets.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 1,149 units
  • Based in: Manhattan, NY
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  • Best Ever Book: Building an Elite Organization by Don Wenner
  • Greatest lesson: There are no shortcuts to building a real estate platform. It requires persistence, an incredible amount of hard work along the way, strong risk management skills, robust decision analysis (including avoiding landmines), and the ability to scale processes and systems to reach new milestones.

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In this episode, Ash dives into the topic of flex space buildings. He explains what flex space buildings are, what kind of businesses you’ll typically find in them, the importance of location, and the pros and cons of owning flex space properties.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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Jeffrey Brogger is the founder and CEO of JJB Multifamily, a brokerage focused on sourcing off-market commercial real estate deals. He is also the founder and senior digital marketing strategist for STEEZY.Digital, a marketing agency that helps real estate brokers and mortgage loan officers with lead generation and follow-up through branding, advertising, and copywriting.

In this episode, Jeffrey shares what most people do wrong on social media when it comes to marketing themselves and their businesses, how to improve your lead generation technique, and the importance of developing and executing the right marketing strategy.

Jeffrey Brogger | Real Estate Background

  • Founder and CEO of JJB Multifamily, a brokerage focused on sourcing off-market commercial real estate deals.
  • Also the founder and senior digital marketing strategist for STEEZY.Digital, a marketing agency that helps real estate brokers and mortgage loan officers with lead generation and follow-up through branding, advertising, and copywriting.
  • Based in: Huntington Beach, CA
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  • Greatest lesson: Gratitude is the prerequisite to happiness.

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In this episode, Travis shares the four pillars that he personally used to achieve financial independence in full detail, plus some additional tips he’s picked up along the way.

Passive Investor Tips is a weekly series hosted by full-time passive investor and Best Ever Show host, Travis Watts. In each bite-sized episode, Travis breaks down passive investor topics, simplifying the philosophy and mindset while providing tactical, valuable information on how to be a passive investor.

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Justin Dixon was the head of recruitment for a wealth management firm when he and his wife decided to purchase their first duplex in Pittsburgh, PA, in 2019. When they realized they could scale their real estate business more quickly through syndications, Justin joined the Think Multifamily syndication group in early 2020.

Today, Justin is the co-founder and principal of Great Venture Capital, and the founder and CEO of Hire Tomorrow, a boutique recruitment firm. He is a GP of 400+ units across two states, as well as an LP of more than 1,000 units across five states. In this episode, Justin discusses the debt structure for his latest deal, questions investors have been asking based on the shifting economy, and what he’s been doing to build investor relations as a capital raiser.

Justin Dixon | Real Estate Background

  • Co-founder and principal of Great Venture Capital, a real estate investment firm that focuses on acquisitions of large multifamily properties across the Sun Belt states.
  • Also founder and CEO of Hire Tomorrow, a boutique recruitment firm that helps clients fill their open positions across technology, accounting/finance, marketing, and project management.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 400+ units across two states
    • LP of over 1,000 units across five states
  • Based in: Austin, TX
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  • Best Ever Book: The Science and Technology of Growing Young by Sergey Young

Greatest lesson: The book Rich Dad Poor Dad was eye-opening. It was the information that I needed to take the leap from working a W-2 to entrepreneurship and investing in real estate.

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Anthony Vicino is the managing partner at Invictus Capital, a vertically integrated syndicator focused on value-add, class B multifamily properties in the Minneapolis–Saint Paul metropolitan area. In this episode, Anthony shares how he and his team lead through the educational content they create, how his local reputation gives him a unique edge, and his advice for new investors looking to compete with him.

Anthony Vicino | Real Estate Background — Second Time

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In this episode, Ash, Slocomb, and Travis continue their conversation from last week’s episode, Expert Tips for Expanding Your Network Pt. 1. They share helpful conference hacks, networking success stories, CRM strategies, and how they each keep in touch with their network.

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Zach Fugman is a Houston-based apartment syndicator who got his start in commercial real estate by joining a syndication education and coaching group called Lifestyles Unlimited. Today, he is the owner of A-Strategy Management, serving as a GP of 1,700+ units, key principal of 1,100+ units, and LP of 400+ units.

In this episode, Zach discusses the value of getting a mentor, how to find the right coaching group, and his advice for new syndicators looking for deals in the current market.

Zach Fugman | Real Estate Background

  • Owner of A-Strategy Management, which syndicates apartment deals.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of
      • 775 units in the Cincinnati area
      • 952 units in MS
      • Key principal on 1,107 units
    • LP of 434 units across Texas and Atlanta
  • Based in: Houston, TX
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  • Best Ever Book: Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins
  • Greatest lesson: If you’re not willing to be on-site, you should not buy the deal. Check the city code and practice before getting in bed with a municipality.

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In this episode, Ash explains the importance of finding a local CRE lender that’s right for you. He shares why going local is a must when it comes to commercial real estate and provides tips on how to establish and cultivate relationships with the top commercial lenders in your market.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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Former college basketball coach Greg Lyons and his brother, Tim, are both licensed capital raisers who got into multifamily syndications at the onset of the pandemic. Today, Greg is principal and managing partner at Cityside Capital, where he raises money for established multifamily and self-storage operators across the U.S.

In this episode, Greg shares why he decided to become licensed, the fluctuations in capital he’s seeing as a result of the changing economy, and how he thinks multifamily can weather an impending economic storm.

Greg Lyons | Real Estate Background

  • Principal and managing partner at Cityside Capital LLC. As a licensed capital raiser with a Series 82 and 63 license, Cityside Capital raises money for established multifamily and self-storage operators throughout the United States.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 16 multifamily properties totaling 5,836 units
    • LP of 2,063 units over 10 properties, plus an office building and a retail center
  • Based in: Charlottesville, VA
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  • Best Ever Book: The Wealthy Gardener by John S. Soforic
  • Greatest lesson: Take action! I was a partner of a 77-unit condo development in Boise, ID, right before the Great Recession that didn't work out. It took a while to find my way back into the real estate world, but I'm thrilled with the progress I've made over the last couple of years.

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In this episode, Travis explains the difference between being a speculator and being an investor and which strategy is more sustainable in the long term. 

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Joe Giuliacci started his real estate career with a halfplex investment property in Northern California. After several years of actively operating a number of duplexes, he discovered the world of syndications and passive investing.

Today, Joe has retired from his 31-year engineering career and is a full-time passive investor in multifamily, industrial, self-storage, and commercial real estate properties. In this episode, he shares his top three pieces of advice for sponsors based on his experience and what he looks for as an LP.

Joe Giuliacci | Real Estate Background

  • Passive investor with 5 Talents Capital, which focuses on multifamily investments. He explores other asset classes as well for his passive investments.
  • Portfolio:
    • LP of:
      • 15 multifamily properties
      • Three industrial properties
      • Four self-storage properties
      • 16 commercial real estate properties
  • Retired from a 31-year engineering career at Boeing Commercial Airplanes.
  • Based in: Lake Stevens, WA
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  • Greatest lesson: Find great sponsors/operators first and foremost; the investment offering will be the bonus.

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Third-time Best Ever Show guest Jason Yarusi is the founder and managing partner of Yarusi Holdings, LLC, a multifamily investment firm based in Murfreesboro, TN. In this episode, Jason discusses how the current economic climate is changing the way he looks at deals, why he is going for “sleep-better-at-night” debt right now, and why he’s zeroed in on the Nashville market.

Jason Yarusi | Real Estate Background

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In this episode, Ash, Slocomb, and Travis discuss the ins and outs of networking. They cover why it’s important to grow your network, what they have done to grow their own networks both online and offline, and their top tips for networking at a conference.

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Ramsey Blankenship is a full-time Master Chief Petty Officer in the U.S. Navy Special Operations who began investing in real estate in 2015 with a house hack in Panama City, FL. From there, he expanded into multifamily units, then began doing joint ventures with partners in different states along the Southeast.

Today, Ramsey is a capital raiser and sponsor at Real Focus Capital Investments. He is also GP of 20 apartments, 10 short-term rentals, and a boutique hotel. In this episode, Ramsey shares how he got into the boutique hotel space, why he decided to pivot from multifamily to RV parks and boutique hotels, and how he raises capital for these properties.

Ramsey Blankenship | Real Estate Background

  • Capital raiser and sponsor at Real Focus Capital Investments, which syndicates large, value-add B- and C-class apartment complexes. Recently, they have pivoted into the hotel/motel/RV park space.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 150+ units
    • LP of 32 units
  • Works full time as Master Chief Petty Officer in the U.S. Navy Special Operations.
  • Based in: San Diego, CA
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  • Greatest lesson: Don’t invest in a market without understanding the market metrics. I purchased nine units in Shreveport, LA, arguably the worst market in the U.S. to invest in. I learned you can not simply "cut and paste" what works in one market into another. I now conduct what I call the "Market Vital Signs" before investing in anything.

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In this episode, Ash lays out his top tips for conducting commercial real estate due diligence that leads to taking down great deals.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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Second-time Best Ever Show guest Tate Siemer has been in real estate since 2006, focusing solely on commercial multifamily for the past four years. Today, Tate is CEO and managing partner at GreenLight Equity Group, which purchases class A, B, and C properties that cash flow and are in appreciating markets. They recently shifted their focus from value-add class C apartments to class A properties almost exclusively in the Columbus, OH, and Oklahoma City markets.

In this episode, Tate discusses class A condo conversion, why he hires his own tax attorney to underwrite deals based on tax implications, and his tips for hiring the right coach.

Tate Siemer | Real Estate Background

  • CEO and managing partner at GreenLight Equity Group, which purchases Class A, B, and C properties that cash flow and are in appreciating markets. They typically hold properties for two-to-five years and syndicate their deals.
  • Portfolio: GP of 572 units across six properties.
  • Previous Best Ever episode: JF2568: Preparing Assets for the Next Recession
  • Based in: Salt Lake City, UT
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  • Greatest lesson: Faith through failure.

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Category:general -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

In the first episode of Passive Investor Tips, Travis explains what financial freedom is, how to determine the amount of money you need to retire, and how to know when (or if) you should stop working.

Passive Investor Tips is a weekly series hosted by full-time passive investor and Best Ever Show host, Travis Watts. In each bite-sized episode, Travis breaks down passive investor topics, simplifying the philosophy and mindset while providing tactical, valuable information on how to be a passive investor.

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Alex Olson fell in love with real estate while he and his wife were building their dream house. He met a mentor who advised him to get his commercial real estate license, and Alex soon developed a passion for representing 1031 exchange buyers looking for off-market multifamily and triple-net investments.

Today, Alex works as a senior real estate broker at XChangeCRE. In this episode, he shares his top four tips for engaging with sellers off-market.

Alex Olson | Real Estate Background

  • Senior real estate broker at XChangeCRE. He works with 1031 exchange buyers looking for off-market multifamily and NNN investments.
  • Based in: Kansas City, MO
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  • Best Ever Book: Am I Being Too Subtle? By Sam Zell
  • Greatest lesson: Don't try to be anyone other than yourself, and use your strengths to maximize your potential.

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Tommy Brant, a self-described recovering electrical engineer, is a full-time multifamily syndicator and real estate investor. He was first exposed to real estate through a college summer job working for a general contractor rehabbing mobile homes.

Today, Tommy owns three long-term rentals and one vacation rental, and he is invested in two apartment syndications totaling 356 units. In this episode, he discusses his tips for purchasing Florida rental properties, why he recently walked away from a contract on a 52-unit property in Nashville, and how he uses direct-to-seller advertising with a broker to find deals.

Tommy Brant | Real Estate Background

  • Founder of TB Capital Group, LLC, which focuses on multifamily syndication.
  • Portfolio: LP of two syndications, totaling 356 units
  • Based in: Nashville, TN
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  • Greatest lesson: Growth mindset, perspective, self-awareness, self-care, and determination are required traits of any entrepreneur. However, after you get past the scrappy start-up phase, finding reliable and competent PARTNERS is mandatory to scale effectively.

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In this episode, Ash, Slocomb, and Travis each explain their own personal real estate strategies, making their case for why investors should consider their approach while also explaining which types of investors might not benefit from using it.

Each week for the Best Ever Round Table, the three Best Ever Show hosts — Ash Patel, Slocomb Reed, and Travis Watts — come together for a deep dive into a commercial real estate investing topic.

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Oliver Fernandez got his start in real estate as a realtor, but quickly realized there was more money to be made as a landlord. After learning all that he could about real estate investing, he purchased his first single-family home, which eventually led him to become a general partner in the multifamily asset class.

In this episode, Oliver shares how his construction background helped him scale to more than 1,200 units, why the pandemic was an eye-opening experience for him, and his Best Ever advice for managing construction from a distance.

Oliver Fernandez | Real Estate Background

  • President of McKenzie Construction, a construction company that invests in multifamily real estate.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 1,270 units across seven properties
    • LP of 1,261 units across four properties
      • Every deal that he is a GP in, he also invests as an LP.
  • Based in: Washington, D.C.
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  • Best Ever Book: Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
  • Greatest lesson: Opportunities are everywhere, you just need to get clear on what you are looking for.

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In this episode, Ash covers the ins and outs of triple-net leases, also known as mailbox money leases. He shares how different types of triple-net leases work and the pros and cons of using each one.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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John Okocha adopted an investor mindset when he was in high school after reading Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki. After starting out wholesaling, he became a realtor and then moved on to commercial real estate and multifamily acquisitions, working as the first hire for a company that scaled from 20 to more than 2,000 units in less than two years.

Today, John has two areas of focus — serving as a debt and equity broker, and launching his own fund that will focus on value-add multifamily properties. In this episode, John discusses the niche that he’s establishing as a debt/equity broker and fund owner, the biggest thing that surprised him about scaling from 20 to 2,000 units, and what led him to launch his own fund.

John Okocha | Real Estate Background

  • Managing principal of Okocha Equity Partners, an alternative asset management firm focused on multifamily.
  • Portfolio: GP of over 1,600 units
  • Based in: Dallas, TX
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  • Greatest lesson: Build strong relationships.

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For episode 100 of the Actively Passive Investing Show, Travis announces that this will be the final episode of the series. He will be launching a new series on the Best Ever platform titled Passive Investor Tips. Episodes will be shorter in length, featuring Travis as he breaks down passive investor topics to provide as much value as possible while simplifying the passive investing philosophy and mindset.

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Category:Passive Investing -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

Joel Block is the CEO and chief deal maker at Bullseye Capital, which focuses on distressed residential multifamily projects. He has been in the syndication and fund businesses since 1987, and he also assists attorneys in complex litigation cases involving real estate, securities, and alternate investments.

In this episode, Joel dives into the four categories of structuring funds that he helps his clients with: control, how LPs get paid, how GPs get paid, and a fourth miscellaneous category that includes elements such as marketing.

Joel Block | Real Estate Background

  • CEO and chief deal maker at Bullseye Capital, which focuses on distressed residential and multifamily projects.
  • Portfolio: Their fund owned close to 50 assets, but they have liquidated most of them as they look to wind down this fund.
  • Based in: Los Angeles, CA
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  • Greatest lesson: One of the great mistakes that syndicators make (especially newer ones) is that they make their deals unfriendly to investors. Some terms are easy to structure in a way that encourages investors to say "yes" to the investment. These are critical to get right to maximize capital raising.

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Category:Financing -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

Becca Hint began her real estate career 18 years ago investing in multifamily. Over her tenure, she has scaled her portfolio both as an active and passive investor, focusing on multifamily syndication. Today, her hard work has paid off; she now resides in Costa Rica in a blue zone—regions where people are recorded to live longer than the average person—enjoying days spent on the beach doing yoga and surfing, all to the credit of her CRE investments. Her new focus is on hotel-to-multifamily conversions, and in this episode, Becca walks through how she navigated one of these deals. She also shares how she reached her business goals and why multifamily is a great asset for international investors.

Becca Hint | Real Estate Background

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Category:Deal/Property Analysis -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

In this episode, Ash, Slocomb, and Travis share their opinions on whether there is a looming syndication bubble. They dive into whether they think it has become too easy to syndicate, their thoughts on future appreciation for multifamily syndication, future challenges they see for operators using bridge debt, what they think it will look like if the syndication bubble begins to unravel, and more.

Each week for the Best Ever Round Table, the three Best Ever Show hosts — Ash Patel, Slocomb Reed, and Travis Watts — come together for a deep dive into a commercial real estate investing topic.

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David Coe began his real estate career fixing and flipping houses with his wife, leaving his corporate job behind so that he could spend more time with his family. After managing his way through the Great Recession, he doubled down by getting more involved in the real estate investing community, eventually getting involved in syndications as both a passive investor and general partner.

Today, David is a developer at Capital Stack Investments, runs a residential real estate team, and works as an active realtor. In this episode, he discusses the complexity that comes with developing properties in the Los Angeles market, why he considers it a niche, the toughest lesson he’s learned when it comes to construction, and his advice for evaluating deals.

David Coe | Real Estate Background

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Category:Deal/Property Analysis -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

In this episode, Ash picks up where he left off from last week’s discussion on investing in retail properties (Investing in Retail Pt. 1). Learn about non-anchored versus anchored strip malls, different types of anchored strips, and the pros and cons of investing in each type.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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Direct download: JF_2860_Beyond_Multifamily_9.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

Mark McGuire started his commercial real estate career at the age of 17 assisting in apartment maintenance, working his way up through construction and sales. After he started buying his own units, Mark began participating as an LP in multifamily syndications.

Today, he is the CIO of Hearthfire Capital, where he focuses on investor relations and serves as the interim development and entitlements director. In this episode, Mark shares the key to being successful with entitlements, how he recruits new investors, and his Best Ever advice when it comes to underwriting.

Mark McGuire | Real Estate Background

  • Chief Investment Officer at Hearthfire Capital, which invests in self-storage, multifamily, and single-family rentals.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 20 residential units
    • LP in 12 syndications across multifamily, industrial, hospitality, and self-storage
  • Based in: Lansdale, PA
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  • Greatest lesson: How to go from the person investing in syndications to finding the deals and raising the capital.

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Category:Deal/Property Analysis -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

In this episode, Travis explores the idea that in life, there is always someone doing better than you are, and there is always someone doing worse. Rather than competing with and comparing yourself to others, he explains why it is more important to focus on competing with yourself when it comes to passive investing as well as life in general.

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Direct download: JF_2858_Actively_Passive_Investing_Show_100.mp3
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Michael Holman is VP of Development and Finance at Overland Group, Inc., a vertically integrated real estate company that develops, constructs, and manages multifamily and mixed-use properties. In his role, he oversees the company’s development while also focusing on acquisitions. As a former CPA for Ernst & Young, he considers himself to be fluent in all things finance.

In this episode, Michael discusses Overland’s most recent deal, why they are zeroing in on Arizona and Utah, the hardest lesson he’s learned so far, and what he believes to be the key to his success.

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Max Moala grew up with parents who were successful real estate investors in the single-family space, but they were hit very hard and lost everything in the 2008 crash. Instead of shying away from the business, however, he decided to face his fears and, with the support of his wife, he left his corporate job in January of 2022 and moved his family to Texas to become a multifamily syndicator.

In this episode, Max shares how he became a GP in three months, the key attributes that led him to success in such a short period of time, and his Best Ever advice for other commercial real estate investors.

Max Moala | Real Estate Background

  • Founder and CEO of API Investments, a real estate syndication company that focuses on multifamily.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 66 units
    • LP of 150 units
  • Based in: Dallas–Fort Worth, TX
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  • Greatest lesson: You don’t need to know everything to get started. What you need is desire, courage, and a great work ethic.

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Category:Scaling -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

In this episode, Ash, Slocomb, and Travis talk about mentors, advisors, books, various quotes, and other things that have helped them along on their commercial real estate journeys. They share the Best Ever advice they’ve ever received, their thoughts on paid mentoring and coaching programs versus free coaching and seminars, plus their favorite books on investing and finance.

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Category:general -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

Kathy Jang is a multifamily syndicator focused in the Arizona area. She is CEO and founder of Diamond Point Homes, serving as GP of 536 units across seven properties and LP of 1,086 units. In this episode, Kathy discusses how she uses education to help guide investors who are nervous about the current economic climate, what factors are essential to consider when it comes to renovations, and how she defines wealth.

Kathy Jang | Real Estate Background

  • CEO and founder of Diamond Point Homes, which focuses on multifamily syndication.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of 536 units across seven properties
    • LP of 1,086 units
  • Based in: Phoenix, AZ
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  • Best Ever Book: Radical Confidence by Lisa Bilyeu
  • Greatest lesson: For me, true wealth is about having freedom and time and the ability to create a positive impact.

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In this episode, Ash shares the ins and outs of how to invest in mom-and-pop retail strip malls. These properties typically have the highest management overhead, the highest return, and the lowest competition. Learn the pros and cons of investing in mom-and-pop strip malls, how to look for them, how to add value to them, and how to manage them.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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Category:Goals/Success Habits -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

Alex Rogers graduated from the University of Minnesota with degrees in finance and economics in 2009 after watching the Great Recession unfold in real time. However, that didn’t deter him from teaming up with a friend to launch his real estate investing career. Today, Alex serves as principal at Gray Duck Companies, a fully integrated real estate firm specializing in multifamily real estate. In this episode, he shares why he decided to take on third-party property management, how he selects clients, and his advice for scaling to the point of hiring full-time staff.

Alex Rogers | Real Estate Background

  • Principal at Gray Duck Companies, a fully integrated real estate firm specializing in multifamily real estate.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of:
      • 200 units through syndication
      • 100 units and approximately 50,000 sq. ft. of commercial acquired outside of raising capital with his business partner and additional JV partners.
    • LP of one fund, one multifamily syndication, and one storage syndication.
  • Based in: Duluth, Minnesota
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  • Best Ever Book: Who Not How, Dan Sullivan
  • Greatest lesson: One of the greatest lessons I've learned was the strength of your immediate network and those you spend time with. A common saying is that "you are the average of the five people you surround yourself with.” I take this to heart and try to surround myself with people that are smarter than I am. If you're the smartest person in a room, you're in the wrong room.

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Category:Property Management -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

While we are constantly seeking more money and more freedom, it’s important to determine how much you want or need to avoid falling into the trap of trading away all of your most important, finite resource — your time. In this episode, Travis shares how passive investing can help you stop exchanging your time for money.

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Omni Casey was born and raised in Hawaii, where he launched his career as both a real estate investor and a broker. After relocating to Virginia 12 years ago, Omni and his wife transitioned from single-family homes to purchasing entire mom-and-pop portfolios. In this episode, he shares his thoughts on the benefits of buying mom-and-pop portfolios, changing his strategy based on the changing economic and political climate, and the importance of separating financial independence from building wealth.

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Omni Casey | Real Estate Background

  • Real estate investor at New Leaf Redevelopers and managing broker at Weichert Realtors. The family investment business focuses on buy-and-hold deals that are small to mid-sized multifamily properties.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of:
      • 170 units
      • Five commercial properties
      • Two mixed-use properties
      • One small storage rental building
      • A commercial retail unit
      • A flex/warehouse space
  • Based in: Ashburn, VA
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  • Best Ever Book: *Multifamily Millionaire* by Brandon Turner
  • Greatest lesson: There are benefits to understanding the changing economic indicators and how that changes the investing strategy that you may want to focus on.

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Michael Albaum is living his dream: traveling full-time in a renovated van with his wife. Their nomadic lifestyle is made possible through his commercial real estate investments, allowing him to invest remotely from anywhere. He’s also able to run his company, Roofstock, while on the road, which provides single-family rental opportunities for buyers, sellers, and financial management software for real estate investors. In this episode, Michael shares how he’s scaled his business, and how he manages his investments from anywhere in the world.

Michael Albaum | Real Estate Background

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In this episode, Ash, Slocomb, and Travis discuss the different ways they use social media to promote their businesses, along with their best tips and biggest online mistakes.

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Category:Scaling -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

Pasha Esfandiary was a professional poker player from the ages of 21 to 25. Seeking more stable income, he started flipping houses, eventually shifting to commercial real estate. Today, his primary investments are in mobile home parks and multifamily. In this episode, Pasha shares the lessons he learned from poker that translate into commercial real estate investing, along with his tips for navigating the booming field of mobile home parks.

Pasha Esfandiary | Real Estate Background

  • Founder of Evoke Capital, which focuses on value-add mobile home parks.
  • Portfolio: GP of 550 units/lots/doors between a mix of apartment complexes, motels, and mobile home parks.
  • Based in: Los Angeles, CA
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  • Best Ever Book: Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill
  • Greatest lesson: Pertaining to this field of mobile home parks, buy good assets and let time do the work. Get REALLY rich slow.

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In this episode, Ash uses some of his personal stories to illustrate how pain points and emotions are a part of real estate transactions, and how you can use them to your advantage.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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J.C. Clemens Jr. spent seven years working for Holliday Fenoglio on the mortgage side and in multifamily sales before landing at Flagship Capital Partners. Flagship is a direct lender and equity investor for commercial real estate transactions with a compelling value-add story. J.C. serves as its managing director and chief production officer while investing in separate general partnerships and limited partnerships on the side. In this episode, he discusses how he qualifies sponsors he chooses to work with, what an ideal sponsor looks like, and the biggest indicator that a sponsor isn’t going to be a good fit.

J.C. Clemens Jr. | Real Estate Background

  • Managing director and chief production officer at Flagship Capital Partners. They are capital providers for value-add real estate investments across the country.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of over 3,000 units
    • LP of 30+ different properties across the country as an institutional LP investment or as a first lien senior lender
  • Based in: Houston, TX
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  • Greatest lesson: Find your niche and stay in your lane. Don’t try to make deals work if they don’t fit your investment criteria.

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Category:Deal/Property Analysis -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

In this episode, Travis discusses the highlights from Misbehaving: The Making of Behavioral Economics, a book written by Nobel Prize winner and author Richard H. Thaler. While we often assume most people are logical and rational with their money, Travis explains how Thaler disproves that theory with a number of examples.

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Category:Passive Investing -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

Ken Naim originally studied to be a pharmacist, but after determining the career wasn’t for him, he quickly pivoted to IT. Before launching his IT career, Ken purchased his first property — a condo for his grandparents. Today, Ken is president of DB Performance, an IT consulting company, and the managing member of his real estate syndication company, Beacon One. In this episode, Ken shares the details about his first commercial property deal, why he invests across asset classes, and what drove him to do his first syndication this year.

Ken Naim | Real Estate Background

  • President of DB Performance and managing member of Beacon One. DB Performance is an IT consulting company; Beacon One is a real estate syndication company.
  • Portfolio: Owner of
    • 37,000 square foot office building
    • 25,000 square foot industrial building syndication
    • 12,000 square foot retail shopping center
  • Based in: Lake Worth, Florida
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  • Greatest lesson: We all have negative experiences that create mental roadblocks; don’t let them become permanent limiters of your potential.

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Category:Deal/Property Analysis -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

San Diego native Bryan Underwood grew up learning the ins and outs of self-storage from his family. After honing his acquisitions, entitlements, and property due diligence skills, he went on to start Responsible Real Estate, which develops residential projects in both the single-family and multifamily asset classes. In this episode, Bryan discusses his biggest learning curve in residential development, what he looks for in a project manager, and what it takes to thrive in the San Diego market.

Bryan Underwood | Real Estate Background

  • President of Responsible Real Estate, Inc., which sources investment opportunities, entitles land, raises capital, performs property due diligence, and develops residential projects.
  • Portfolio:
    • GP of:
      • 109 units between two development properties and one value-add property
      • 10 townhomes
    • LP of:
      • 15 self-storage facilities
  • Based in: San Diego, CA
  • Say hi to him at:
  • Best Ever Book: The Bible
  • Greatest lesson: Surround yourself with great people.

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Category:Property Management -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

In this episode, Ash, Slocomb, and Travis discuss how the economic and political climate in mid-May of 2022 is impacting the way they look at deals, the rules of thumb they follow when it comes to recession recovery, and the fundamentals of the economy.

Each week for the Best Ever Round Table, the three Best Ever Show hosts — Ash Patel, Slocomb Reed, and Travis Watts — come together for a deep dive into a commercial real estate investing topic.

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Category:general -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

Dan Kryzanowski has been a passive investor for the past decade and plans on using the summer of 2022 to reflect on his investment strategy, his goals, and the asset class(es) he chooses to focus on. Dan is an advisory partner at BV Capital, which is a private, veteran-owned real estate development and investment company. In this episode, Dan explains why he is taking a temporary step back this summer when it comes to investing, why he recommends deferring taxes with the Delaware Statutory Trust, and why he recommends completing additional due diligence when dealing with a sponsor consisting of only one GP.

Dan Kryzanowski | Real Estate Background

  • Advisory partner at BV Capital, which is a private, veteran-owned real estate development and investment company.
  • Portfolio:
    • LP of:
      • 2,600+ storage units
      • 1,500+ multifamily doors
      • Additionally, dozens of industrial, infrastructure, and residential properties
  • Based in: Austin, TX
  • Say hi to him at:
  • Greatest lesson: Be extra cautious (and complete additional due diligence) when dealing with a sponsor consisting of only one GP.

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Category:general -- posted at: 3:00am EDT

In this episode, Ash talks about broker relationships and how to secure deals from brokers. Anyone can develop great broker relationships, he says — it’s all about how you approach them. Ash takes time to go through his LinkedIn inbox to demonstrate examples of the do’s and don’ts when it comes to reaching out to brokers.

The Beyond Multifamily series is hosted by non-residential commercial real estate investor and Best Ever Show host, Ash Patel. Ash’s goal for this series is to introduce you to the world of non-residential commercial real estate investing and teach you how to look at and underwrite different commercial asset classes.

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Category:general -- posted at: 3:00am EDT